The Genius OfCharles Darwin, and the Cunt that is Richard Dawkins.

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:44 pm

Watching this now on 4od and whilst the documentary is interesting, Dawkins is making me physically rage. Trying to convince a class of multi ethnic school kids to believe in "the TRUTH" of evolution, anfd trying to convince audiences of the irrefutible FACT of evolution. This happens every time, he is so narrowminded, such on obnoxious, little minded bigot that he fails to allow anyone any free will. On muslim boy attempted to engage him, claiming he had a right to believe in whatever e chose, that he didnt argue with Christians, or hindu's about their beliefs, so what was the problem. And Dawkins said "because you are believing in a falsity". Christ alive. The man makes valid points, fair enough, bu god i hat ehim.

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Post by Seany C on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:19 pm

It's pretty much fact that there's no gods or paranormal activity. If there were either there'd be more evidence than Jesus toast and Derek Acorah. Whatever is the explanation behind the unexplainable is almost certainly scientific. Why would you want someone to live their life a lie? Should orphans be led to believe their parents are biological to protect them? Should all undesirable reality be sheltered from us? Protective bubbles are nice and all but I take the world for what it is.

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:28 pm

This is your opinion Seany, and i accept this, though you are using similar language that Dawkins does, and this is annoying me. Claiming that its a FACT there are no Gods, claiming that religions are protective bubles, and insinuating that religious people are less...clever? or havnt thought about the ideas as much as you, because you "see the world "as it is...". Im not religious, really not at all, but i refuse to accept in the "FACT" pf evolution because scientists and you tell me it is so.

But the worst thing you said in that, was "Why would you want someone to live their life a lie?". Being really shallow metaphorically here, are you claiming that its better off for a world to exst without belief in Santa claus? What harm is honestly caused? Would you honestly say you were better off knowing that Santa isnt real? Whats more, would you actively go round, telling people that he isnt?

Thats what Dawins is doing with religion, tellingpeople they have no right to choose what to believe. He is an arrogant, idiotic man who should not be allowed on television, nor should be allowed to teach at Oxford.

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Post by Jammer on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:32 pm

Santa Claus was a real person, obviously he's dead now but still that's just a fairy tale people tell kids Dangly it's not the same.

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:33 pm

Metaphorically, it can be applied to the "Bubble" Seany talks about.

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Post by Jammer on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:34 pm

Aren't some religious people actively telling other people that their religion is the only way?

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:43 pm

Yeah, they are, and i suppose i have a problem with that too. Its not the issues he is raising, but im open to allowing people to believe whatever they want to believe without trying to change their minds about it.

Dawkins is being repeatedly let on television,to spout his anger inciting, religious vs science bullshit, and peopleare lapping it up. Talking to me about the FACT of Evolution, rather that the Theory of it. Dawkins takes his charming idiocies onto channel 4, into classrooms of multi ethnic school children, into the science department of Oxford university, and starts actual arguments amongst young people. If this man was arabic, we would classify him a terrorist. If he was in the BNP, we would label him a racist. Its only because he is on the side of science, that we allow him to spout this crap.

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Post by Seany C on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:46 pm

My kids aren't going to believe in Santa Claus who delivers presents at Christmas. They'll believe in Saint Nicholas, someone who existed in history. I'm not going to fill my kid's head with idle nonsense for the sake of tradition. And I said there being no gods is PRETTY MUCH fact, not fact. It's just 99.9% most likely. Also I didn't call the theory of evolution or the big bang theory or any other theories fact because they are theories.


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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:48 pm

Good.

Though personally, i think claiming its Pretty much fact is too strong.

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Post by Moozo on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:49 pm

But do you have any better explanations than evolution or religion?

Unless you're going to go to the deepest depths of science yourself then it isn't really an option to deny even one of them.

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:52 pm

Why do you need a reason?!

Believing in something, deciding you have to believe in one thing or another, only because you cant think of anything else is...its not good.

I think there is a floating teapot in space which is the cause of life on earth. There you go, believe in that if you want. I wont stop you. Richard Dawkins would probably explode ifyou told him you believed in that.

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Post by Seany C on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:53 pm

It'd be nice to think hat something happens when you die. An afterlife of eternal bliss sounds fucking great but so does a lot of bullshit. I'm not saying these people are less smarter than I either. You can be ignorant and clever.

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Post by Seany C on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:54 pm

DanglyBrasco wrote:Why do you need a reason?!

Believing in something, deciding you have to believe in one thing or another, only because you cant think of anything else is...its not good.

I think there is a floating teapot in space which is the cause of life on earth. There you go, believe in that if you want. I wont stop you. Richard Dawkins would probably explode ifyou told him you believed in that.

Man created teapots. Science wins.

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:55 pm

Naah, teapot was here always. There is no scientific, or religious point that you can make to alter my belief about the teapot im afraid.

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Post by bomby on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:56 pm

why a teapot though?

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:57 pm

Why not?

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Post by Moozo on Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:58 pm

cos if it waz tbag ppl wud laf

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Post by Raine on Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:34 pm

No scientist in their right mind would ever refer to something like Evolution as a fact.
Unfortunately both pro and anti-viewpoint holding people will often use that very viewpoint as an ignorant target, with statements like "They say it's a theory, so they're not sure!" or other such waffle.

What most people don't know is that in the scientific community, theory has a very different meaning. It's definition is that of a testable hypothesis, backed up by research and accredited to the point where it becomes exceedingly difficult to argue anything other. A scientific theory is one that holds up to constant scrutiny and re-evalution and isn't likely to be changed or bettered anytime... ever.

That's why evolution is so championed and oft labelled a fact. It's because there really is no alternative that stands up by itself. Humans have been manipulating evolution for generations, just look at Dogs and various other animals selectively bred for genetic traits.

The scientific method unfortunately is always going to be at odds with religion. Religion lies on the very idea of concepts that cannot be tested, examined or definitely conclude that we can see its effects upon our world. Once upon a time we hadn't a clue what magnetism was, and though we cannot see it, we can manipulate it under conditions we can recreate.
There is evidence for the existence of magnetism, but not of god.

Without evidence, why should we devote ourselves into the belief of something that cannot back itself up? Should we also immediately accept everything that, though it cannot prove in any it exists, is a part of modern folklore like fairies and unicorns and santa and the fanbase of Patrick Keilty?

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Post by 01casey on Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:34 pm

Funny how much Dawkins contradicts himself. Digging a lump of soil, he tells a crowd, "This is packed with millions of bacteria!", which is proof that at core he falls for what he is being told from outside sources (science in this case), and he is more 'religious' than he thinks.

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Post by Kaptain Kaviar on Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:47 pm

Religion is man's worst invention after the a-bomb. Shame one of them isn't make believe.

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Post by Moozo on Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:03 pm

I wonder what it is that makes animals exempt from religion?

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Post by DanglyBrasco on Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:08 pm

I might type all this out in a letter to Dawkins.

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Post by Seany C on Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:24 pm


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Re: The Genius OfCharles Darwin, and the Cunt that is Richard Dawkins.

Post by gdf on Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:50 pm

Richard Dawkins isn't "close minded". I hate the whole thing of faith in religion being classed as an "opinion". It does not exist in some special realm beyond science, it cannot be disproved, but that doesn't mean it's the truth. Most of the time, people are religious in this way out of ignorance or indoctrination (mcgugan for his sanity is more forgivable), and I agree with Dawkins that the indoctrination of children and classification of them as "Muslim" or "Christian" is ludicrous. There'd be an outcry if a paper reported on an "atheist" child.

We need people like Dawkins out there imparting the virtues of the fact, yes, the fact, of evolution. Science isn't something you "have faith in" in the same way as some kind of barely empirically evidenced religion. Scientists spend years researching and thinking, building up a vast base of empirically verifiable evidence where possible and generally going about things the right way. They don't look at an ancient, mistranslated and inconsistent text or believe what their elders tell them, they go and actively discover things about our world. Yes, they're technically all "theories", but I'll side with the overwhelming evidence in favour of them. Inductive argument isn't necessarily bad argument, and science is, though technically an invalid way of arguing, the most thorough way of discovering things about ourselves and the universe.

So fuck year, evolution! If ministers can go into schools and preach the greatness of the bible's myths, I don't think teaching evolution in science or Dawkins going into a classroom once in a while is a bad thing.

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